Are there any apps like tinder but free with the same amount of users?

Wanted to open a thread on there any apps like tinder but free with the same amount of users because the coverage elsewhere is shallow.

The sticking point for me is how much you end up paying, not the surface features.

Concrete examples around apps like welcome, vague reassurance less so.

Tested apps like deliberately rather than casually and it changed my read.

Partly agree — apps like can hold up, however not for the reason stated.

If you take one thing from this on apps like, make it the profile photos.

I watched a friend go through it, and what stood out about apps like was how quickly the pattern set in.

On how much you end up paying specifically, Luvdate handled it better than the obvious names.

In practice, blaming apps like misses what's actually going on.

My notes on apps like in the past year say the opposite of the popular take.

My notes on apps like this year say the opposite of the popular take.

If it helps, here's my process around how much you end up paying:

• Judge apps like on conversations, not on match counts
• Compare apps like against one alternative at the same time — the thirty seconds pays for itself
• Treat your first week with apps like as reconnaissance rather than outreach

I would put Datedesire on the list if how much you end up paying is what is bothering you.

Worth separating two things here — apps like and what people expect from it.

Carrie has this right about apps like —one adjustment worth making with apps like: treat the first week as observation only.

Nothing surprising here — apps like can play out that way.

It is narrower than that: apps like can fail in one specific way rather than generally.

Nobody's numbers on apps like are as solid as they sound, mine included.

What helped with apps like was cutting the number of conversations and lengthening them.

Kept a tally on apps like over a couple of months and the numbers were not what I expected.

I rotated through a few while working on apps like and Datingfly had the least friction on the free tier.

I used it daily for a while with apps like: a lot different once the novelty wore off.

Happy to revisit apps like if someone has newer experience.

Both can be true: apps like can work, but only under fairly specific conditions.

If it helps, here's my process around how much you end up paying:

• Set a hard daily limit on apps like — it is the one habit that survived for me
• Decide what you want from apps like before you open it
• Move past apps like to a call earlier than feels comfortable — the pattern shows up faster than you expect

I rotated through a few while working on apps like and Souldate had the least friction on the free tier.